WT's arguments sound pretty darned arrogant to me.
"Don't listen to what God actually said! Let me tell you what he meant!"
"What is meant is what is implied, rather than that which is stated."
and the people say: ‘this is our god, who led us out of egypt!’ then the israelites have a big party and worship the golden calf.
when jehovah sees this, he is very angry.
so he says to moses: ‘hurry and go down.
WT's arguments sound pretty darned arrogant to me.
"Don't listen to what God actually said! Let me tell you what he meant!"
"What is meant is what is implied, rather than that which is stated."
and the people say: ‘this is our god, who led us out of egypt!’ then the israelites have a big party and worship the golden calf.
when jehovah sees this, he is very angry.
so he says to moses: ‘hurry and go down.
I recently bought the Blu-ray DVD of the movie Big Eyes. It's commonly known that Margaret Keane, the actual artist of the big eyes paintings, became a JW after moving to Hawaii. Their initial calling on her is portrayed in the movie, but it doesn't make a big deal out of it.
In the Special Features, Ms. Keane appears in a brief Q&A session. She seems very modest and gracious, and got a big laugh at the end when she made a great quip that tied in with the movie. I also noticed that she wore a bright blue "JWdotOrg" lapel pin throughout. Whatever...
In case you're wondering, I thought it was a pretty good movie and worth the time spent watching. The main premise is that her husband promoted her work as his own and almost completely dominated her. At first, she went along with it because "people don't care about women's art," and his tireless promotion made them millions. Later, she went public that she was the actual artist and her husband (or maybe ex-husband by that time) sued her. At the trial, the judge ended up having them both paint something for comparison and she clearly established that she was in fact the original artist.
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and..... there is not a damn thing you can do about it because freedom of religion is guaranteed in the constitution.
suck it up buttercup.. - would make a nice billboard.
stan livedeath: I am so sorry for the turmoil the WT caused in your family. It's downright shameful how people will allow religious leaders to dictate how they must treat relatives who dare to want to leave the JWs. I would be mortally embarrassed for anyone to know I'd never met my grandchildren or spoken to my adult children for years. Especially over something so stupid and ridiculous as a difference in religious beliefs.
i know the usa is not perfect.
there have always been social issues and differences.
politics has been for many people divisive.
I was born here, love it, and will never move anywhere else. There are some serious problems, but we always have and I think always will overcome them. It's still one of the only countries on earth where a child from an insignificant family and a one-horse town can become a millionaire through his or her own initiative and hard work. Basic education is free and can lead to great things if one takes advantage of that wonderful opportunity. That, plus a good original idea, and lots of hard work and long hours can produce great things. It has happened many, many times.
Of course, the path to riches as I described it is grossly oversimplified. There are many obstacles to overcome. My point is it's still possible if one makes good life choices and sound business decisions. The opportunity is there for all, though some do face more obstacles than others.
the next thing i knew, i was knee deep in conversation with a seminary student covering two thousand years of religious history.
damn, how did that happen?i won’t bore you with lavish details.
in fact, i only mention the incident for one reason.i'm no smarter than anybody - but i've had way too much practice chatting with eager christian seminary students.i posed a couple of questions i’d never done before which seemed to stop this fella dead in his tracks.
I like the way you think, Terry. But I'm sure you realize by now that you cannot depend on reason to make points in a religious discussion with a "true believer." They'll finally resort to something along the lines of, "It's not a matter of reason. It's a matter of faith."
Reason has no power against blind faith. When people have already made up their mind what they want to believe, no amount of persuasion or logic or reason will dissuade them. It's a lost cause.
https://i.imgflip.com/42ws6j.jpgfunny what will trigger a memory!.
i spent the night at my best friends house back in 72, i was 13. he had a stack of sears and penny's catalog's stashed under his bed.
in them he had the women's under wear pages all marked!!
I'd love to buy that dad a drink and shake his hand! Now that's standing up for his kid. Good for him!
i was still a jw at the time and my four boys were always anxious for me to bring home a daisy product.
i did just that during a weekend for a lab tryout.
ha!
The links work great now. Thanks!
2020-pioneer seminar video in german.. .
this file was sent to us by an anonymous kind person.
all files that are sent to atlantis are re-named, and a different download link is generated from the link the sender used.. .
Hi Petra and Atlantis!
On behalf of almost everyone here, I thank you for your hard work in sharing the documents and videos that the Borg is so determined to hide from the rank and file.
You'd think they'd be happy that lots of people want to redistribute their convention videos. That helps them reach many more people than might otherwise see them. But wait! They don't want thoughtful commentary, much less criticism, of their insidious message: "You must obey whatever we tell you, no matter what it costs you emotionally or financially. If we change those instructions tomorrow, you must forget that we ever put out the old instructions and explanations and immediately adopt the new ones as your own."
And they certainly don't proof of those outdated instructions and explanations floating around for just anyone to discover. From their standpoint, there is good reason for this. Some of them are downright embarrassing. While widely accepted back in the day as societal norms, some of the positions they held back then are rightly viewed today as racist and condescending. Many of their paternalistic blatherings are very hard to read without cringing.
Anyway, thanks again for all y'all do to get this information out while protecting the identities of your sources.
i know several older retired witnesses who comolain abiut how little social security pays.
all of them made more than i ever did but were self employed.
they fudged the amount t they reported on taxes and thought they would never get old.
Don't these people realize they are disobeying their own religious masters and belying what they've been trying to push down everybody's throats all this time?
This kind of crap makes them liars and cheats and they deserve whatever happens when it backfires on them.
look at the new york post online today and watch the videos of mayhem and destruction to the city with fires all over manhattan.
the police vehicles are being destroyed and torched and the rioting just goes on and on.. i regularly went to nyc sometimes once a month for years.
now, who on earth would want to go to this hellhole??.
Uh, RubaDub, Gerald Ford has been dead since 2006. If you're talking about a career criminal named George Floyd, a lifelong thug who sired a number of illegitimate children whom he never supported and whose last arrest was for passing counterfeit bills, then yes, his death was one of the false premises upon which the present unrest is said to be based.
To be clear, despite anything else, Floyd did not deserve to die in such a display of depraved indifference, especially since he was already in custody and no longer resisting. But there are plenty of others who died in even more egregious examples of police misconduct. They would have been much more appropriate symbols for the protests to rally around.
Regardless, the statistically rare and isolated instances of police abuse cannot justify the rioting, burning, and looting the country has suffered in the last few months. The ongoing insurrection in certain cities has nothing whatsoever to do with peaceful protesting.